Date: Wed Dec 1, 2004 5:38 pm
Subject: About Divestment
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We have had a number of people writing to the PDS list about the Resolution being considered by the Board of Alderman regarding divesting from
PDS has not taken a stand on this issue. It does not fall under the context of our stated PDS Platform for
The Platform of the
We reaffirm our
Several messages on this topic have gone out to the list as well as links to sources of information by both sides. We encourage you to contact your elected officials as individuals and state your opinion to them for whichever side you choose.
Two resources for information are:
For the Resolution:
Against the Resolution:
I am consolidating the messages currently waiting in the queue that I have received on this issue into this email. I expect that there may be additional responses after I send this. Because this is not an issue that PDS has taken a stand on, I hope that this will not become a bombardment of responses from both sides. We try to keep the traffic on this list down to topics we are working on as a group...for example the Transportation Issue, Elections, and School Issues etc. I try to be fair as moderator of the list and most members to whom I have spoken have appreciated my efforts and understand that not every message that gets sent to PDS gets distributed to the entire list.
Since I do expect multiple responses on this topic, I would like to say that if you feel compelled to respond, I will collect additional responses until Sunday December 5, consolidate them into one email and send that out to the list. If you are from one side and feel your side has been unfairly represented, I apologize.
There are many new people who have joined this list in the past month. You should know that this is a moderated list and it is that way at the request of the members and this request was voted on and approved. Not all messages go to the list. If you have a message that does not get sent to the list, please contact me personally and we can discuss it. I probably can’t make all of the people happy all of the time, but I try. It isn’t always easy to be moderator and it sure doesn’t pay well either!
A list member (Ron Francis) did send forward several messages from another list to us. It is not our policy to forward messages from other listservs to our list; we prefer that people interested in that topic join that other listserv. Therefore I am not going to be sending those out to our list, however I will tell you how you can read the information contained in them.
The topic is “Weekly Report on Israeli Human Rights Violations in the
Below my signature you will find the messages from other list members.
Progressive Democrats of
From: Ron Francis <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: PDS: About divestment
Dear PDS folks
I am a new person to the PDS, and so I have one question and a comment:
Is PDS able to take an action quickly given the urgent matter before us?
It is an indisputable fact that each week thousands of gross human rights violations, rising to the level of war crimes according to Amnesty international, are committed against Palestinians and
I recently sent to the group a listing of Israeli War Crimes for each of the last 4 weeks (4 emails). Please look at them - they are condensed for easy reading and offer compelling evidence that this matter needs to be acted on THIS WEEK at the latest.
We cannot allow
If these attacks were happening to children living in Spring Hill or Clarendon Hill, would we anyone still think it is ok for the funds to go toward these hideous crimes? If rubber bullets were being used as excessive force blinding children and causing permanent damage to kids on Winter Hill, would we be waiting.
All of the children in the world are created equal in my mind and all deserve protection from human rights abusers, and this protection should be immediate.
We all know Palestinians whose families have been and are directly affected by these actions. Many live in
It is absolutely embarrassing, and unconscionable that
Let's take action so that at least we can say that we have no part in this nightmare.
Let's take two steps:
1) Instead of debating particular resolutions, let's issue soon a simple statement saying that we call for divestment of Israel Bonds and the complicit war criminal-supplying companies involved in
2) Let's go further and
Despite the rhetoric abounding, the actual TEXT of the resolution (see www.divestmentproject.org) speaks to human rights violations and takes no side in the
No one has yet given any argument that we should continue to be one-sided and immoral by continuing to invest in war crimes.
In the absence of any such argument, I would suggest that the above two actions be taken ASAP.
Dr. Ron Francis
Subject: Re: Let's
Here's what Ron wrote:
"attacks on innocent civilians leading to 1000s of disabilities, the killing of nearly a 1000 children in the last 4 years, torture and other ill-treatment of prisoners including blindfolding..."
That could well describe the
Ron also wrote:
"War crimes, by definition (see
It is the official policy of the
Finally, Ron writes:
"Is there anyone in PDS who thinks that we should be invested in Israel Bonds or funds that are connected directly to Israeli war crimes as documented by Amnesty International?”
Here's the most recent report by Amnesty International about US war crimes in
It's dated Nov. 16, and there are plenty of other reports besides that one. I agree with Ron that Amnesty International should be the arbiter of which countries have committed war crimes. Their annual report on the
- Stop Child Executions
- End Racial Profiling Act of 2004
- Who are the Guantánamo detainees?
- Torture and accountability in the 'war on terror'
- A complete report on the pattern of
- The Amnesty website further includes current citations of war crimes in
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My point is, if we want to be consistent about divestment, we should seek the divestiture from any companies that do business with the
I would not
Furthermore, PDS's mission and focus has always been to work within the Democratic Party -- and by extension, within the
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I'm a Jew and a childhood resident of
In summary, I would
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If PDS is to have a fair debate on the Israeli-Palestinian situation in order to make a balanced judgment, I would also suggest that the debate include the pre-1967 history of the neighboring Arab countries' relations with the Palestinian cause, because that accounting would make it obvious that the Palestinians have been the political pawn of the neighboring Arab governments. The stated purpose of the Palestinian movement -- a return to the pre-1967 borders -- would literally mean a return to occupation of
-- Jesse Gordon
From: "jonhaber02143" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: About divestment
In response to Ron Francis' message on divestiture, I prefer not to counter his note point by point within a ListServ posting. However, I invite anyone interested this subject to visit a Web site I have created to post information related to the
Somerville Middle East Justice will have daily updates regarding the issue that I hope will contribute information that has not been touched on by the resolution's
You can visit the site at:
I urge you to contact your alderman and inform them if you agree with me that the resolution is bad for peace, and bad for
I hope you will be able to.
It will be updated daily between now and when a final vote is taken on this issue.
Anyone with questions can contact me at email@example.com